In between sets of Caroline Wozniacki’s first round match against Ksenia Pervak in Brisbane, her father Piotr provided some on-court coaching.
Amy can be spotted on a tennis court in the Philadelphia area, shanking backhand volleys.
Translation, please. Seems fun.
“You’re playing, you have completely no concept and you know what’s worst in this? That you seem to be playing, you look like you’re coping with the balls but in reality.. you’re not playing at all. The thing is: she is playing. (…) You’re playing too short, you see it or you don’t see it? Tell me how you, as a player, can not play a backhand? (…) She’s winning because you’re serving non stop like a fool at the same place and your serving is getting worse. (…) She, such a shrimp, can chase it from over there, because you’re not attacking. (…) You’re standing 2 metres behind the baseline, by the “Brisbane” and she’s playing it short and you take it like that. “
Thanks a lot for that!
Some it it that I caught with my Russian was technical about her forehand and grip. I think.
Sounds like the straight talk she likes.
http://manixdk.blogspot.dk/2012/12/tennis-fathers-piotr-and-caroline.html and http://manixdk.blogspot.dk/2012/12/tennis-fathers-piotr-and-caroline_27.html
for a more in-depth description of the relationship between Piotr and Caro by Anders Haahr Rasmussen.
Do you understand? Can you see it? Ugh, that was depressing. Rough and quick translation below, apologies for any inaccuracies.
He starts with saying that she has no plan how to play her, it seems like she’s playing but she’s not. She’s hitting short balls, in the middle of the court, and Pervak’s waiting for it. He’s criticizing her serves, especially sliced ones, serving right into her opponent’s return zone, her court positioning (standing too far back, 2 metres behind the baseline, and picking up low balls), not attacking with spin and high net clearance . “How can you, as a tennis player, not play with your backhand? You’re serving like a clown in the same spot, and your serve it getting worse and worse. You’re waving your arm, your racquet like this instead of like this. You’re not following the ball, not coming into the court, not changing the direction, you’re playing down the line. She’s short (ok, so he used a much more colloquial word here) but she can run to every ball because you’re not hitting. You’re not in position to have some space and close it out, play with spin, she’s short, she has to take one more step and what are you doing? You’re playing how she wants it. Do you understand? But you won’t play high balls, this much over the net, you know why? Because you’re picking thae balls up here.” (points at the ankle level)
They’ve been practising playing in the court: “You can’t stand like a clown but look at the balls, they’re telling you what shot you must hit.” Then has has something positive to say- yay! Says her return is good. She’s playing, she decides, she has to pick the ball at the right moment, play with high net clearance and spin and push Pervak back but if she gets a low ball she can’t do that because she’ll hit it out. He seems irritated mostly because Caro isn’t putting what they’ve been practising into play, she needs to serve and take the next ball early, not stand at the Brisbane sign and play short balls in the middle of the court. Caro says she understands and he encourages her to be positive.
Thank you so much for that, Jesna! Simply fantastic. I love the recurring use of the word “clown”.
Thanks so much Jesna!
By the way, Caro told Ekstra Bladet that she had knee problems through 2012 http://ekstrabladet.dk/sport/anden_sport/tennis/article1891406.ece
he offended her rival calling Ksenia “a shrimp”
he got caro down so much
he’s such a arsehole
You seem nice.
My take on “on court coaching” is I don’t like it,that’s clear.
But I’d like for people to take into account that in some other culture it’s customary that people can talk harsh without meaning any harm,that’s the way they are,they would talk loud,harsh and if that is not your way of understanding things you could deduct that they are being abusive…
A lot of “sugar coating” talk that happens in some countries doesn’t necessarily translate in other parts of the world and that does not make them “bad people”,my take!
I really don’t like on-court coaching. Probably Nigel Sears and his middle-manager motivational speeches to Ivanovic annoy me the most. Not sure why, they just do.
Whatever Caroline and Piotr have going, it seems to work. I think they must be able to separate the father/coach roles quite starkly, and it’s maybe us who can’t manage that separation when we look at them?
I wonder if there’s so much suspicion of Piotr partly because most people in the English-speaking tennis world don’t understand anything he’s saying, and partly because there have been so many dodgy tennis fathers who have really hurt their daughters.
Piotr doesn’t strike me as fitting into that mould, though (as much as anyone can know from outside, which most likely isn’t much at all) – Caroline’s tried several other coaches, and she has access to other coaches all the time (Manixdk can correct me if I’m wrong.) She seems balanced – some commentators seem to think she is *too* well-balanced, too happy outside of tennis with her nice life and her relationship with Rory, to push herself harder (which I think is a bit silly really.) She’s not isolated, she doesn’t seem overly stressed on court, or off it. She seems to want to be pushed, not pandered to or bolstered.
I’m not entirely convinced that’s the best approach when you are already not feeling confident (and I haven’t seen any confidence in Wozniacki in quite a while) but then, I’m not Caroline, I’m not there, and she seems to feel more comfortable with Piotr as coach than with anyone else she’s tried.
Correct. Piotr hired 2 full time coaches for Caro in juniors, and she fired both of them. Right now, she’s comfortable with Piotr as main coach, and the Adidas team as technical consultants. As Piotr has said many time, he knows nothing about the technical aspects of tennis.
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I view the relationship between Caro and her father in much the same way that I view the one between Bartoli and her father. It is a case of fathers who need to be in control of their daughter’s professional life, to the detriment of everything else. Bartoli refuses to play Fed Cup unless her father is there with her. Walter, not having his daughter’s interest at heart refuses to step back for 1 week to allow his daughter the chance to represent her country.
Wozniacki’s game has regressed. Caro has lost whatever hunger she used to have for the game. There used to be a time when she would want to win matches. Want to win tournaments. Want to fist pump and shout from the mountaintop about her victories. Those days are long gone. I swear Caro wants to be the next Clijsters. She knew as soon as she put that ring on her finger and landed with Rory that everyone would be asking whether she was engaged. These days she seems to prefer answering questions about her love life than about her tennis.
I understand that in some cultures what some folks think is aggressive speaking may very well be acceptable. I am Jamaican and we speak aggressively to each other all the time. It does not necessarily mean that we are angry with the person. That being said, from the translations above, not only was the communication between father and daughter harsh, but it was condescending and belittling to not only Caro, but to her opponent as well.
Aga made the decision to separate herself from her father and look at her results. Woz is quite happy with where her game is right now. She has never wanted to be the best that she can be. She has never wanted to win Grand Slam trophies. She has always just wanted to be the face of tennis. The cutesy, sunshiney blonde with the millions in endorsements. If that is what she wants from her tennis career, then she needs to stop pretending that she wants to be more than that.
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