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  1. francisco vallejo
    francisco vallejo September 9, 2013 at 6:53 pm |

    Hola Juan; que bueno que estás trasmitiendo en vivo ya que estoy por empezar una reunión. Pero de todas maneras creo que esto se va a cinco sets.

  2. francisco vallejo
    francisco vallejo September 9, 2013 at 7:43 pm |

    Puedo grabar con el sistema, pero me olvidé. Espero lo repitan en la noche

  3. mylardiim
    mylardiim September 9, 2013 at 9:53 pm |

    “Now, as in 2010, Nadal comes to Novak Djokovic’s best surface, and is about to beat him…again. This is just what this man does.”

    Ammm… Djokovic’s favorite surface is Plexicushion with the higher bounce in the Australian open, not the DecoTurf in the US. Maybe a casual fan can get away with saying “oh, well they are all hardcourts”, but not you.

    “In 2008, Rafael Nadal went to Roger Federer’s best surface, and beat him. Then in 2009, went to his other favorite surface and did the same.”

    Seriously!!! seriously… You could say that one of his favorites was Rebound Ace. But they changed it to Plexicushion, which is a very problematic surface for Fed.

  4. Steve
    Steve September 9, 2013 at 10:25 pm |

    A bit too much gushing from Juan Jose re: Rafa. We get it. He’s your favorite player. Nadal outplayed Novak in stretches, but Novak’s unforced errors were the reason he wasn’t up 2-1 going into the 4th set and ultimately why he lost. When the points were played out with one of them hitting winners – Novak was winning the majority of those points. It’s almost like Novak needs a Serbian repeat of 2010 Davis Cup to get that measure of confidence he’s lacking. It’s becoming a bad cycle: confidence low -> hit UFE/make mental erors -> confidence even lower -> repeat.

    1. toot
      toot September 12, 2013 at 7:39 am |

      Nadal is JJ’s favourite player? Who knew? Actually Steve, Juan Jose is a huge Novak Djokovic fan.

      Novak’s ‘unforced’ errors were the direct result of Nadal forcing him to go for more dangerous and desperate shots. It was usually the only way he could win. Nadal was taking some wild rips at the ball too but he played smarter and of course his ferocious mental tenacity in never ever giving up on a point or a game or a set were big factors too. Those love-40 shots at 4-4 in the third were a perfect example.

  5. rafaisthebest
    rafaisthebest September 10, 2013 at 2:33 am |

    Thank you Juan Jose. You nailed it with your summary!

  6. neilintoronto
    neilintoronto September 10, 2013 at 3:10 am |

    Re: Steve. I don’t think JJ was gushing too much. If this had been the French Open, i’d be inclined to agree with you. Looking at all that transpired leading up to this match, the 7 months off, the first round loss at Wimbledon, this win is worthy of a huge amount of praise. At any time, another man, another player with Rafa’s already numerous accomplishments may have thrown in the towel, or just played in a “happy just to be here” mode. I’m rewatching the match right now and I don’t think Novak simply lost because of unforced errors. A lot of those errors were forced by the sheer will of Nadal.

  7. rafaisthebest
    rafaisthebest September 10, 2013 at 3:41 am |

    Let’s put the GOAT debate on the back burner for now, shall we? But with this win I hope the ridiculous assertion that Rafa is nothing more than a clay court specialist can finally be buried under the mountain of bullshit the argument was predicated on.

    Clay court specialists don’t win 5 non-clay slams. Clay court specialists don’t have winning records against EVERYONE in the top 30 (a feat never before accomplished in the Open Era). Clay court specialists don’t have 22 match win streaks on hard courts. Clay court specialists don’t hold the #1 ranking for 102 weeks (with more weeks to come). They just don’t.

    I’ve always felt that Rafa’s god-like ability on clay has wrongly overshadowed the awesome all-court player he clearly has become. Nadal has won multiple Slams on EVERY surface. Something Federer and Sampras never accomplished. And he’s not done. I think even the most embittered of Rafa haters would admit the guy has a couple more HC Slams in him.

    The GOAT debate isn’t going away. At the age of 27 Rafa has amassed the 3rd most Grand Slams in the history of tennis, and equaled Fed’s total when he was 27. With what I believe will be at least two more years of very competitive tennis, 17 doesn’t seem so untouchable anymore.

    Just a clay court specialist? Seriously?

  8. Nadine Mendez
    Nadine Mendez September 10, 2013 at 7:35 am |

    I hope you guys are gonna make a “Five Thoughts” post on this match. I wanna know what you all thought.

  9. achronai
    achronai September 10, 2013 at 1:19 pm |

    Perhaps you’re right that Djokovic isn’t in his 2011 level. But its not that simple. In that year we saw a suddenly much improved Djokovic-perhaps mainly due to his dieting(Djokovic admits so himelf as you already know) and like you said his readiness to tackle the Nadal challenge. On the other hand I don’t think Nadal was prepared at all for Djokovic and neither was Murray or the rest of the ATP for that matter. The 2011 Nadal was burned out just coming out of the Federer rivalry and he even admitted so himself. He had lost interest in tennis kind of like Borg did around the same age. Not only did he need a new competitor but he also needed a vacation as well as time to adapt to the suddenly new and improved Djokovic.

    The Nadal of today would certainly have beaten the Djokovic of 2011 as well in 4 sets or less. Djokovic would have had no problems dislodging the US Open Nadal of 2011 today as well and probably in straight sets. It takes 2 to tango so when you say that Djokovic is not playing as well,it also has a lot to do with the other players facing him. Sure Djokovic’s backhand wasn’t as effective today as it was in the 2011 final but it was much easier to hit in 2011 as Nadal was begging to be pinned back giving Djokovic all those shallow floaters. Also Nadal didn’t use 1 single slice in the 2011 final while Fed was always using it forcing Djokovic to be the one to inject pace in the rallies. (As a side note I’m sometimes suspicious Federer picked up this bad habit of soft returns from playing Djokovic.)

    Today’s match reminds me of the Indian Wells final with Delpotro where if you saw just the 1st set you would’ve been pretty sure there was no way for Nadal to win yet he turned out to be the aggressor in the final set just like today. The mental factor is huge and I think Nadal has proven his edge in this field-the focus in the first set,the tenacity in the middle surviving set. I always felt Djokovic’s mental strength was overrated and mistaken for another uncanny abliltiy which seems to belong to him alone-which is to be a great all-or-nothing risk-taker. Beating Federer after facing back to back Mp’s for 2 US Open’s comes to mind. Ofcourse if you haven’t won a single slam yet,you might not feel you had anything to lose.

    You may be right that Djokovic has plateaued. He’s never been in this position before to continue the evolution of tennis while being no.1 or after losing it. So only time will tell of his character but like you I’m a bit skeptical. Djokovic relies on his superior game to win and not his mental toughness. His backhand however great it is will be more and more a liability as he ages. Its one of the most difficult shots to keep although I wouldn’t be telling Serena that.

    As for Nadal passing Federer? I think he’s already passed him and there is no need to prove more. Grandslam argument is irrelevant-Grand slams are much tougher to win nowadays then back then. Don’t agree? No? Nadal not an all-courter? he beats Djokovic at US Open his worst surface and Federer in Wimbledon(thx for that one Jose:)) so there isn’t more proof needed for that one. Federer is lucky to have 1 RG? maybe because that year he didn’t have to play Nadal? There’s a good chance that Nadal will have second career slam but is tied with Wilander to be the only player to win 2 salms on 3 surfaces. so…tired of having to defend Nadal on these redundant issues esp after he just won the US Open-his worst surface. Hope he wins Aussie for that 2nd career slam.

  10. jon jaravata
    jon jaravata September 13, 2013 at 8:01 pm |

    There is no question that the US Open 2013 winner Nadal is better than ever. His ability to solve problems (re: love-40, 4/4 third set) and hold for 5-4 is a prime example. He served so well in that situation and connected with his down the line forehand as well as inside outs. He fights for every point and used his forehand to steal the third set from Djokovic. He reminds me of my mental weakness, facing 3 breakpoints and holding for 5-4 in the third. I would have lost that game on the 1st breakpoint. The “Houdini” act by Nadal in the third set is the pivotal point for his winning his 5th grand slam on a hard court. Nadal 2013 vs Djokovic 2011, we all know that Nadal would prevail.

  11. zaaq
    zaaq September 14, 2013 at 12:26 am |

    I’d wait for 10 years and the truth shall set all of you free. It is a matter of time.

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