During Caroline Wozniacki’s match against Mona Barthel in Doha, Piotr Wozniacki argued with the chair umpire. When asked to leave, he refused.
Video of the incident:
Amy can be spotted on a tennis court in the Philadelphia area, shanking backhand volleys.
Why don’t they give Caroline a point penalty every minute her father refuses to leave, or something?
How do you know he was asked to leave? It was impossible to hear what they discussed. It was purely a guess from the commentator. This is how the narrative is woven.
yeah, if they can’t kick him out/get him to leave then point penalties need to come to caroline. how can they allow a person from the stand (coach or no, he’s not a player and thus have the right to argue a call with the umpire at the moment) to argue with the umpire like that? it just doesn’t look good. for the wta. and especially for caroline.
the day he stops being her coach i will cheer.
You can clearly hear Julie say “Nå må du stoppe” in Norwegian. “Stop now” in English, and he does. Get the facts straight. Never in the exchange between Julie Kjendle and Piotr was there any mention of having him thrown out.
True. Funny how bloggers and fans in this instance take the live commentator’s interpretation as fact, considering that the same bloggers and fans usually are very quick to point out how stupid, wrong and clueless tv commentators are…
Yeah, and bloggers are so quick to criticize journalists…it is very clear that Piotr was NOT asked to leave. Steve Tignor removed this error from his write-up. This website and SI BTB should do the same.
Tignor wrote: “In the second set, her even feistier father, Piotr, got in on the action by arguing her case with the ump from the stands. He was finally asked to leave by security, but he wouldn’t budge.”
Every write-up suggests that Piotr was asked to leave. Our site never said that the chair umpire asked him to leave, just that he was asked to leave.
Tiognor’s changed his correction, which is disappointing. Every newspaper write-up by journalists *who were there* mention nothing about Piotr being asked to leave. It is only mentioned by on-line bloggers *who were not there* repeating what the commentator said. The source has to be considered. What were the sources for those write-ups? Journalists who were there, or someone watching a stream and repeating what the commentator said?
“Inexplicably, Kjendlie ordered the point to be replayed as second WTA official intervened to ease tensions and restore order after the bizarre incident.”
More reporting from those who were there:
The AP’s Michael Casey : http://bigstory.ap.org/article/radwanska-quarters-qatar-open-0
Danish Ritzau news agency: http://www.dr.dk/Sporten/Oevrig_sport/Tennis/2013/02/14/152658.htm
which backs the ibtimes version of events. Again, from a journalist who was there, not watching stream commentary.
The point is, he shouldn’t be arguing with the umpire in the first place! He wasn’t asked to leave by the umpire? Well, he should have been. End of story.
Not only is it quite clear that Piotr is asked to leave, it’s also very clear that the decision was made separately from anything the chair umpire was doing.
One does not have to be there to confidently deduce what happened. In fact, multiple camera angles and the ability to replay events can often give a television viewer more chance of accurately working out a situation than someone who was there but 100 yards away. Quite often people who are sitting the other side of the court will refer to television replays to fill in the gaps of their first hand knowledge.
So sure, take a pop at bloggers (Ask yourself why in your own time) but not on this occasion, as they’re pretty much bang on, and the more vehemently you try to make them look foolish, the more foolish you appear yourself.
Piotr was clearly way out of line and should have been disciplined, no doubt about it. Whether or not he was in fact asked to leave like the commentator says, and didn’t, or asked to behave and be quiet, and eventually did, is up to your interpretation of the body language of the official who appraoched him, and I don’t think you can conclude either way with any certainty.
Last word on this. When there is disruptive behavior at any performance, sports, theatre, or otherwise, since when is the offender “asked” to leave? They are escorted out, no questions asked. Piotr would have been kicked out if tournament officials found him disruptive, which they did not. We don’t know what was being said, so can’t just assume he “refused to leave,” which betrays common sense, or was ever asked in the first place.
Ben R. of the NCR podcast said there was no evidence Piotr was asked to leave. Hope that convinces you to do your homework next time.
No, it convinces me that I disagree with Ben’s opinion, which is also subjective considering he wasn’t at the match either. Hope that helps.
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